FINAL HEARING (Catholic child abuse)

Feb 2017

ROYAL COMMISSION INTO INSTITUTIONAL RESPONSES TO CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE

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WEEK ONE

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Interesting that this has turned out to be the most popular tweet in my coverage of the @CARoyalComm this week @Byline_MediaLucie Morris-Marr added,
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Doyle says Cardinals take a separate oath in which they vow to the pope that they do not reveal anything that may be harmful to the church.
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This is why @CARoyalComm is so ground-breaking. It’s creating cultural change not just in Australia but around the world @JuliaGillardLucie Morris-Marr added,
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Devlin says she learnt yesterday from @CAroyalcomm “we need to go away and provide better guidance in relation to the confessional.”
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Ms Devlin has been excused. The public hearing into the Catholic Church has been adjourned for the week. It will return 10am AEDT Monday
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Devlin @CARoyalComm says she does not know any priest in Ireland who would break the seal of confession.
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Devlin says @CARoyalComm there is no mandatory reporting [to police] in Ireland only guidance but she wants to change that.
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Devlin says she learnt yesterday from @CAroyalcomm “we need to go away and provide better guidance in relation to the confessional.”
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says of the Catholic Church; “…this is a huge institution that takes a very long time to change.”
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Devlin says @CARoyalComm “Anything that interferes with the safety of children is chilling.”
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Devlin @caroyalcomm says she’s been described as the “most hated woman in the Catholic Church in Ireland…but that’s OK.”
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Devlin @CARoyalComm says she was once criticised in Ireland for saying children should have a voice.
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says the approach for the future is to ask children directly; “..find a mechanism for focus groups or questionnaires.”
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm “I hope the worst is over [child abuse] but I don’t want anybody to think they can stop being vigilant.”
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Devlin @caroyalcomm says there is no doubt children are safer in the Catholic church than they have ever been “but my worry is complacency.”
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Devlin says @CAroyalcomm her group runs role training for people who support complainants of abuse as it can be a “very confusing role.”
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm ; “….people are put in roles of leadership who don’t understand how to deal with this [child abuse allegations.]
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Thank you for joining the conversation following my live tweets @CARoyalComm
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Lucie Morris-Marr ‏@luciemorrismarr 11h11 hours ago
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This week @CARoyalComm we’ve heard from experts from US and Ireland and it’s a depressing reminder how global the problem of child abuse is.
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says there is a “sharp contrast” to the way abuse allegations are dealt in Ireland since the 1980s.
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says there are around 200 Catholic child abuse allegations made every year in Ireland relating mostly from 1950 – 2000.
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Devlin said she “talked to everybody” including survivors, children and accused priests to create her standard policies in Ireland.
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Devlin says everything reported to the Vatican is stored and also stored by the church in Ireland therefore there are no secret files.
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Devlin says the better understanding you have of church life the better the resulting assessing report [on accused Irish priests]
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For context Devlin’s watchdog is run by the Catholic Church in Ireland. She says @CAroyalcomm the leaders “don’t like me very much.”
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says she has made Irish bishops go to Rome and “sit outside their door” to speed up abuse complaint cases.
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says she has made Irish bishops go to Rome and “sit outside their door” to speed up abuse complaint cases.
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says they have found an inconsistencies “between those who conduct investigations” in Ireland.
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Devlin says most complaints are from adults who have been abused in the past: “We have very few allegations from children now.”[in Ireland]
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Ms Devlin is the chief executive of the Irish watchdog, the National Board for Safeguarding Children (NBSC),
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Devlin @CAroyalcomm says they only use the term “historic allegations” [of abuse] if someone is dead otherwise there is still a risk.
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Child protection social worker Teresa Devlin says very few allegations of abuse result in prosecution because of the passage of time.
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The public hearing has resumed with child protection social worker Teresa Devlin.
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From 10am join me again as I continue to live tweet the final part of the Catholic child abuse hearing @CARoyalComm @Byline_Media

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Yes, we really appreciate #LucieMorrisMarr’s updates on the #ChildAbuse RC
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@luciemorrismarr @CARoyalComm That proves to me they should care for victims All equal in humanity Thnx Lucie for keeping us up to date
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Don’t worry @greens Pell said my abuse allegations scoop was timed purposely ahead of his RC appearance. Wrong. Just when I stood it up.
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In 2000 we sent to all churches & MPs w/list of convicted priests -called for Royal Commission- Card Pell accused us of stunt to sell porn!
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Pell always accuses people of bizarre motivations. He said overnight he thinks @Greens did “political stunt” by saying he should come home.
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BREAKING: The Senate has passed a @Greens motion calling on Cardinal George Pell to come home to assist police investigate abuse claims.
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Doyle says Cardinals take a separate oath in which they vow to the pope that they do not reveal anything that may be harmful to the church.
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@luciemorrismarr Thankfully Paul did not teach you silent submission Lucie. Brilliant coverage. Thank you
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Sister Hanlen says “I don’t mind handing anything over…we are dealing with a serious crime and the protection of children is paramount.”
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Doyle says Cardinals take a separate oath in which they vow to the pope that they do not reveal anything that may be harmful to the church.
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Panel @CAroyalcomm agrees that nothing in divine law says that child abuse is not to be recorded to authorities.
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Hearing at @CAroyalcomm adjourned until 2.10pm
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Father Doyle: “I see a very serious collision between civll law and canon law. The welfare of children overrides every other consideration.”
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Mr Tapsell: “Reporting to the police is something that is so important to protect children…stops them from repeating the offence.”
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Father Doyle @CAroyalcomm blasts the Vatican for failing to deal with child abuse saying: “The pilot in the cockpit is sleeping.”
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Doyle: “Holy See has been a major stumbling block in bishops trying to do anything.”
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Doyle refers to a case of “200 deaf mutant” children in the US abused by one priest who was then allowed to live out his priesthood.
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Father Doyle: “We have seen enough of results of priests who are allowed get off the hook, that’s where the scandal is.”
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“The crime we are dealing with is the violation of a child which is also a civil crime,” Father Doyle says.
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Father Doyle says the solution [to child abuse by clergy] has been to avoid responsibility in both the civil and clerical arena.
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Father Doyle says it’s wrong that the focus has been on the perpetrator, the priest, instead of the victim.
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Father Doyle: “I don’t know of any canon that says the victim should be seriously considered.”
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Father Doyle @CARoyalComm : “The best interest of the victim should the over-riding concern in canon law.”
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Father Doyle says it’s impossible for a bishop to convince a priest not to abuse again.
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Why are the police persisting with the Pell investigation? Hasn’t he already been completely cleared by Andrew Bolt?
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This evidence today kicks off the second theme of this final hearing of the @CAroyalcomm It’s on “Discipline, Secrecy and Confession.”
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Father Doyle: A [canon] law would be very nice, or certainly very helpful [in dealing with priests accused of child sexual abuse]
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Father Doyle @CARoyalComm : “It’s very difficult unless you have a very serious sense of responsibility on this issue.”
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The @CAroyalcomm hears that If an accused priest is not dismissed then canon law requires the church to look after him
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Mr Tapsell @CARoyalComm “Every bishop I have seen said it was extremely impossible to dismiss a priest.”
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Father Doyle: “Canon law does not impose consequences if there is not acceptable evidence of wrong doing… then there are no consequences.”
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Punishment in canon law can include dismissal from clerical state in the worst instance, says Doyle @CARoyalComm
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Father Doyle @CAroyalcomm says the church can no longer commit priests to their own jail although they could at one time
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Mental illness or heat of passion has been used as an excuse for child sexual abuse says Father Doyle @CARoyalComm
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Father Doyle: “When this issue arose…and people knew what was going on…we said we couldn’t act because we were bound by secrecy.”
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Father Doyle, a whistleblower US Catholic priest, says canon law is an “excuse for accused clerics to continue in ministry.”
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Father Doyle criticises mix of “laws” saying “Canon law has been used an excuse for not taking direct against for reports on abuse.”
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Sister Hanlen @CAroyalcomm “In relation to the abuse of children civil law must prevail.”
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Justice McClellan @CARoyalComm “Where do we end up if there is a conflict between canon law and civil law?”
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Dr Austin says a decision always has to be made that a church leader would not take into account canon law but will take on civil law.
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Dr Roger Austin, a canon lawyer, explains how canon law and civil law means there have been two systems in place for dealing with abuse.
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Sister Moira Hanlon @CARoyalComm explains how she had some responsibility for applying canon law processes for cases of child sexual abuse.
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Furness is discussing Canon Law (laws created by Pope and gov of church for its members) @CAroyalcomm and what the witnesses may say today
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I vote that Gail Furness SC is next Attorney General. She has led this marathon @CAroyalcomm throughout incredibly & with forensic questions
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I feel v lucky that when I attended a Church of England primary school & then a Quaker boarding school, I only encountered exemplary adults
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Father Thomas Doyle, Mr Kieran Tapsell, Dr Rodger Austin and Sister Moya Hanlen are on the panel giving evidence.
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Join me at 10am as I live tweet @CARoyalComm Father Doyle is due on again. First flagged problem of Catholic abuse & it cost him his job.

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I wrote this feature just before the @CAroyalcomm hearings in Ballarat in 2015. Helped me understand the suffering.

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My live tweets @byline_media of @CAroyalcomm have earnt nearly 100,000 impressions over the past 24 hours alone.Shows how much people care.
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The panel has concluded. The public hearing has adjourned and will reconvene tonight at 6:00pm AEDT with witness Father Gerry O’Hanlon.
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@luciemorrismarr @CARoyalComm archbishop Coleridge has every right to ask a priest about his sex life
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Coleridge says @CAroyalcomm: “A crucial point is how do we introduce new and incisive forms of accountability into clerical life?”
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The process of what to do when allegations occur comes from the framework of Towards Healing, says @archbishopmark @CARoyalComm
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Asked what he would do if he had word a priest had abused children Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says; “I would act immediately” #auspol
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Archbishop Coleridge @CARoyalComm says in “the old days you did what the bishop said but it’s not done that way now.” There is negotiation.
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says Catholic Church is a “concentrated community and in some ways alarmingly decentralised.”
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Archbishop Coleridge @CARoyalComm says relationship between a bishop and a priest is quite unusual; “A priest is not an employee of mine.”
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Archbishop Coleridge @CARoyalComm says supervision and accountability will be key to the future of the church.
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Archbishop Coleridge is talking @CARoyalComm about what can now be done in the future to prevent child sexual abuse.
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Public hearing has resumed. Witnesses are Dr Maureen Cleary, Professor Patrick Parkinson, Mr Peter Johnstone and Archbishop Mark Coleridge.
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Public hearing into Catholic Church authorities in Australia has adjourned for lunch and will resume at 2:00pm AEDT
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says a cultural change in the church is “certainly needed.” #auspol
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Archbishop Coleridge praises @CAroyalcomm for compiling complicated data on abuse which was a “massively complicated process.”
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Archbishop Coleridge says they haven’t embraced “adequate transparency” that’s adequate for an “unusual community” like the Catholic Church.
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Archbishop Coleridge: ”Church will not only see the faces of those abused but also see through their eyes which might be the eyes of Jesus.”
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says change will include being more communal and less clerical & will listen to victims.
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm: “We can’t put up a sign saying business as usual; that would be utterly irresponsible.” #auspol
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says arrival of Pope Francis & Royal Commission will bring cultural change to Catholic Church #auspol
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says that there will be “a manifestation of cultural change” in the Catholic Church in Australia. #auspol
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Defending offering forgiveness in confession Coleridge says the teaching of the church offers “the mercy of god…again and again and again.”
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Coleridge admits that the Catholic Church in Australia has at times “looked the other way” and tried to look after the problem themselves.
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Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says if a priest admitted criminal behaviour to him in confession he would inform the police. Says others would too.
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Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says church has grappled with why people like bishops “didn’t see some of the criminal behaviour going on.”
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Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says final decisions rest with him ultimately but it’s not as though he’s “sitting in some garret” on his own.
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Coleridge: If the Catholic Church says it can’t ordain women we need to explore ways women can make decisions..at a high level.” #auspol
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Archbishop Coleridge say there has been an increasing tendency to include lay people and women into decision making processes. #auspol
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Archbishop Coleridge says human motivation is “murky and complex” and may lead to an attraction to a life with unusual access to the young.
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Archbishop Coleridge: “How would I discover the details of a man’s sexual life?”
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BREAKING: The Archbishop of Brisbane, Mark Coleridge, has clashed dramatically with Justice McClellan @CAroyalcomm over sex lives of priests

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Archbishop Coleridge: “The relationship between a bishop and a priest is a delicate one; there are certain things I’m not entirely to know.”
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm:“It’s a delicate matter to enter into a priest’s life and I have no right to ask those questions.” #auspol
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Archbishop Coleridge: “I have no right to go to a priest who is not an employee and say “excuse me are you in a sexual relationship?”
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The Archbishop disagreed with Justice McClellan saying: “I can’t know the details of the sexual behaviour of the clergy with whom I work.”
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Justice McClellan pressed the Archbishop saying it was surely up to leaders such as himself to know the sexual behaviour of their priests.
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says in terms of his own celibacy he never had the sense of being “shackled” by the church or oppressed.
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Archbishop Coleridge: “I was given a choice in my 20s to be celibate…I signed a blank cheque.” @CARoyalComm
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Archbishop Coleridge says he can’t know if the stat proposed by Father Doyle is true that 50% of ordained people don’t live a celibate life.
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says he has lived a celibate life for the best part of 50 years and says it is enriching.
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Archbishop Coleridge @CAroyalcomm says he disagrees with Prof Parkinson and believes celibate living “does not lead to emotional isolation.”
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Archbishop Coleridge: “The assumption that celibate life is impossible is clearly wrong. It’s not like sleep or food.”
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Justice McClellen has just asked those present at the hearings from making comments during the Archbishop’s evidence.
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Archbishop Coleridge on causes of child abuse: “I’m still not persuaded that clerical celibacy was a causative factor.”
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In recent year the Archbishop says he has focused specifically on the issues of child sexual abuse along with his bishops in Queensland.
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On the cause of child abuse Archbishop Coleridge says @CAroyalcomm it is “a rage of factors that have caused a perfect storm.”
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Archbishop Coleridge: “I reflected on what has happened and why has it happened and it seemed to be not one simple answer.”
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From 1985 Archbishop Coleridge says he then went on a “journey that is still continuing.”
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Archbishop Coleridge says he first came across an instance of child abuse by a priest he describes as an “unusual character” in 1985.
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Archbishop of Brisbane for almost five years, Mark Coleridge, is now speaking @CARoyalComm
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Mr Johnstone says there is an “obvious lack of women in the church. “
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Mr Peter Jonestone is now speaking @CAroyalcomm and says the Catholic Church is “an organisation which is failing.”
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Prof Parkinson @CAroyalcomm on the isolation of clergy: “They go to bed alone….or retire alone during the day. It must be very hard.”
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Prof Parkinson @CAroyalcomm says celibacy is not main cause of abuse but isolation and loneliness of clergy also needs to be considered.
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Prof Parkinson @CAroyalcomm “If there is a culture to describe rape as inappropriate touching…that gives permission to continue offending.”
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“The capacity to respond… to child abuse depends on the capacity of leaders..and that has been part of the problem.” Prof Parkinson
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Prof Parkinson @CARoyalComm says the Catholic Church is not based on biblical – or modern – ideas of leadership but a pre-renaissance model
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Prof Parkinson @CAroyalcomm criticises the model of the Catholic Church saying it is a “medieval model.”
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Dr Cleery @CAroyalcomm “The institutional church is not good at sitting down and actively listening to other people.”
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Dr Cleery @CAroyalcomm “I’ve always felt the institutional church has a lot to learn from the women religious institutes in this country.”
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Dr Cleery @CAroyalcomm says “the duty of care” is a primary focus of the boards of “child centrered organisations.”
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Dr Cleery is talking about lay participation in the church system saying it is best when there is a “commitment to the meaning system.”
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Dr Maureen Cleary, Professor Patrick Parkinson, Mr Peter Johnstone and Archbishop Mark Coleridge are on the panel giving evidence.
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Please join the conversation from 10am today as I live tweet the third day of the final hearing @CARoyalComm @Byline_Media #journalism
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The hearing has been adjourned until 10am tomorrow. Please join me again then for live tweeting coverage of this final stage @CARoyalComm
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Things are very controlled now, says Dr Moloney, saying you wouldn’t even be able to put your arm around a child who is homesick.
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Asked about the church & children now Dr Moloney says institutions still exist but are in hands of very capable people who are supervised.
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Dr Moloney says he does not like the word celibacy, but prefers the more positive “sense of chastity.”
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Mulivhill says orders are “fraught and dangerous for the Australian community” because they “do what they want.”
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Dr Michelle Mulivhill says many of religious orders are “laws unto their own, particular those who report to Rome…doing as they wish.”
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Prof Ormerod: “They [priests] are part of a clerical club. All of them don’t even realise as it’s so much part of their life.”
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Prof Ormerod on Catholic clergy: “It’s a very tight cultural group….common training and lifestyles that they identify with one another.”
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Dr Moloney says there will be a national register of priests of “good standing” but the problem is the checks involved.
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Panel @CAroyalcomm agrees women should have bigger role in management of dioceses which is in agreement with Pope Francis.
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Dr Mulivhill on the Catholic Church: “If this was a business we’d be shut down a long time ago.”
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Dr Mulivhill @CARoyalComm : “Who are we? And why aren’t we rollicking down the barricades and saying we will not put up with this again?”
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Dr Mulivhill says dignity has been attacked at “every level” from a child to the position of ordinary church going people.
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Dr Mulivhill @CAroyalcomm says it’s time for “Australians to stand up to Rome to say we are not little Rome or Italians…we are Australians.”
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“When an organisation’s main task becomes corrupted…people move out of role and boundaries are breached,” says Mulivhill @CAroyalcomm
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“It’s all about power,” says Mulivhill @CARoyalComm, “All roads lead to Rome.”
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“Dressing them up [children] & fondling them together is not something to have an ethical discussion about it’s just wrong,” says Mulivhill
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Dr Mulvihill @CAroyalcomm says on abuse: “This is endemic and massive and at every single level. The abuses are there everyday.”
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Dr Michelle Mulvihill,also on the panel,says she finds Prof Ormerod’s comments offensive. She says she “does not buy the bad apple excuse.”
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Prof Ormerod says there should be professional development in ethics about maintaining proper boundaries.
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The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse shows us religious institutions need thorough public supervision.
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Prof Ormerod says one view about why child abuse takes place is that abusers find “something sexually attractive about vulnerability.”
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Prof Ormerod, suggests pastoral supervision, a person they see on a regular basis, would help ensure the safety of children.
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“They find themselves in this situation [with children] and the powerful desire to act out…they just can’t control it,” says Dr Moloney.
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@luciemorrismarr @CARoyalComm Thank you so much for all your reporting on this. It can’t be easy for you, either, hearing such things.
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Dr Moloney @CAroyalcomm believes clergy were not paedophiles before they joined but the “tendancies emerged” when alone with children
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Dr Moloney:“We took it for granted once people took on this life on they were going to do good things not bad things & that was a mistake.”
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Dr Moloney; “This isn’t BHP, this is the Roman Catholic Church. I can’t say pack your bags and go…because he is still in religious orders.”
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Dr Moloney says @CAroyalcomm as allegations against clergy came up on his watch he had to remove them from ministry and defrock them.
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Dr Moloney; “I found why my predecessor (at the Salesians) had a breakdown and later died. He found the whole thing overwhelming.”
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When Dr Moloney took over at the Salesians he found a “great mess” in regards to child abuse.
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Rev. Professor Francis Moloney is giving evidence now a senior fellow of Catholic Theological College & priest of the Salesians of Don Bosco
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Prof Ormerod @CAroyalcomm talks about abuser at a seminary who was ironically teaching students about celibacy.
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@luciemorrismarr @LyndsayFarlow Lucie thank you for keeping us informed. Worst couple of days & Ive emailed RComm to ask questions Papal Knt
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The public hearing has resumed with a panel consisting of Dr Francis Moloney,Prof Neil Ormerod,Dr Michelle Mulvihill
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Here is a link to @canberratimes article which mentions me by Peter Wilson, chair of Australian HR institute.

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Thank you for following my live tweets on the final stage @CAroyalcomm The support and feedback I’m getting is tremendous. Very kind.
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Before completing his evidence Father Doyle said he is grateful for the @CARoyalComm for caring about the abuse victims in the US too.
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The priority must be the present victims, Doyle says; “Those whose souls have been damaged beyond repair or are seriously suffering.”
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As to what can be done in the future Doyle @CAroyalcomm says action is what is needed; “Victims are sick and tired of apologies.”
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Victims need to made the primary concern, Father Doyle says. Everyone from the Pope down are all equal in the eyes of God.
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Doyle: This [Catholic abuse] is not unique to Australia but across the world and @CAroyalcomm will have an effect worldwide & in the vatican
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Doyle praises @CAroyalcomm in Australia saying it is “unique in the world” and “historic” and will make a difference in the long run
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Doyle on the work of the @CAroyalcomm “you’ve take on something that is mind-boggling” in a way that is “more courageous” than anyone.
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The child abuse issue is something the church would like to keep unknown and buried in secrecy, Doyle tells @CARoyalComm
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Those priests or bishops who have spoken out have been penalised, isolated or sidelined by the Holy See, Doyle says @CARoyalComm
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Doyle talks about the compulsion of priests to abuse. Compares it to like being an alcoholic who desperately wants to stop drinking.
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For context Father Doyle is a priest now representing victims who was sacked from the Vatican embassy in Washington in 1986 for speaking up.
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On getting sacked Doyle says; “They do it in a very gentle fashion.I was told my bedroom was needed by another man who was coming.”
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Doyle: “The church is unable to comprehend the damage of rape and abuse….that’s soul murder and sometimes those murdered souls stay dead.”
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In very strong and frank testimony @CAroyalcomm Father Doyle accused the Catholic Church of failing to comprehend impact on victims.
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Doyle says abuse complaints now mostly being dealt with through proper channels but says there is a “tremendous pushback in the Vatican.”
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Causing applause @CAroyalcomm Doyle said; “I believe in there is no ideology that justifies sacrificing the innocence of one single child.”
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Father Doyle: “The stature, the image, the power [of the church] is far more important than the welfare of the victims.”
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Over history, inc middle ages, priests would be more harshly punished for abuse by beating, imprisonment and shaving their heads,Doyle says.
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Doyle said he found evidence from 309 AD that in a first council of Bishops they dealt with problems of sexual abuse of boys.
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Father Doyle says his research showed that a teaching doc in 98AD said “men shall not engage in sex with young boys.”
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Father Doyle @CAroyalcomm accuses the Vatican of only helping Bishops by “covering up and lying and enabling it [abuse] to happen.”
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Doyle on the Vatican and dealing with child abuse: “As an institution I see nothing.”
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Doyle says he has “never seen anything coming out of the Holy See” that deals with the damage of abuse.
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Father Doyle says he has witnessed the “profound spiritual damage” which is done to victims who are sexually violated by a Catholic priest.
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On getting sacked Doyle says; “They do it in a very gentle fashion.I was told my bedroom was needed by another man who was coming.”
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Father Doyle: “I was the only priest in the US who was known to have stood up to the system – which is why I was sacked in 1986.”
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Doyle tells of meeting a child abuse victim aged 10; “I looked into his face , I still see it, it was empty, that moment changed my life.”
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Doyle reveals he wrote a document in 1985 to try and help clergy in the US. “Some used it, some put it in the trash I don’t know.”
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Doyle on the growing no. of abuse complaints in the 80s in the US: “The bishops were all talking about it, they were all worried about it.”
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Father Doyle: “The perception was it [complaints of child abuse from US parents] would get to the Pope.”
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Father Doyle: “It sounds bizarre I know…but I had to find humour over the years working on this otherwise I would have gone totally mad.”
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Father Doyle @CAroyalcomm describes the “crazy drama” of the cover ups and chaos of the complaints of US Catholic child abuse in the 1980s.
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Doyle talks about how US priests in the early 80s who had offended were moved in a “cloak of secrecy” in “the chaos that was going on.”
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Father Doyle: “Supervision [of priests who have offended] can’t be done in an effective manner.”
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Doyle @CAroyalcomm says supervision of priests is not effective and the system failure all comes out when they re-offend.
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Furness @CAroyalcomm asks Doyle if priests who have offended are supervised now
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Father Doyle talks of the ground-breaking case in the 80s when a US family decided sue over child abuse & named senior figures inc the Pope
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@luciemorrismarr Keep doing what you are doing Lucie. Lots of us appreciate it. Great work.
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Father Doyle tells of the Catholic Church’s attempt to cover up the US abuse case in 1982 ….”the buzzword was scandal” he says.
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Father Doyle talks about an abuse case in the US in 1982 which involved a bishop picked up with teenage boys.
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US Canon Father Doyle tells @CAroyalcommission the process for the Vatican choosing suitable bishops. Explains how Pope has to approve all.
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Royal Commission’s final public hearing into Catholic Church authorities has resumed. US Canon lawyer Father Thomas Doyle is giving evidence
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Join me today as I live tweet the evidence @CARoyalComm from 10am. This is the vital final hearing into Catholic child abuse. @Byline_MediaLucie Morris-Marr added,
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@luciemorrismarr Yep, I agree. Keep it up please.
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The persistence of the windmill-tilting investigative journalist. Outstanding.Alex Cobham added,

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How I exposed the £1 billion #HBOS Reading fraud. A personal account. #longread http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/15071200.Ian_Fraser__Mafioso_bankers_and_my_part_in_their_downfall/ …
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@luciemorrismarr so this is how long it’s been going on for, well Lucie keep pushing on, Bolt isn’t even a speed bump when it comes to you! https://twitter.com/stinginthetail/status/828515756253995009 …
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I look forward to live tweeting again tomorrow @CARoyalComm – or running a witch hunt as Andrew Bolt @newscorp might call it. Fine by me.
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@WilmaSlurrie @luciemorrismarr See Lucie’s material, Bolt is way out of touch!
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@luciemorrismarr @murphess1 @CARoyalComm
I agree
Gr8 coverage on your part. I thought things were bad to start with. But now I just despair
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Let’s hope this time justice will be done. Great work Lucie #pell https://twitter.com/luciemorrismarr/status/828486026209300480 …
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@luciemorrismarr @murphess1 @CARoyalComm yes you have what makes a Journo great, that is exposing what needs to be exposed. I have 2 girls 2
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Thanks so much @GeoffShannon As a journalist and a mother I’ll never give up shining a light in the dark corners of this tragic subject.Lucie Morris-Marr added,
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@luciemorrismarr @murphess1 @CARoyalComm great work Lucie Im very impressed with your never give up attitude! You won’t be bullied I love it
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Shocking news for Victoria from @CAroyalcomm today that around 15 % of priests in two towns, Sale and Sandhurst, were abusers. Worst in Aus.
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BREAKING: Child sex abuse detectives from Sano Task Force have sent dossier back to Office of Public Prosecutions for second review. #pell
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BREAKING: Follow freelance investigative journalist @luciemorrismarr for her live tweeting of @CARoyalComm Crowdfunding details to follow.
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Worst Catholic groups for child sex abuse in Australia revealed http://ab.co/2le4TEN

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Cardinal Pell has strenuously denied any wrong-doing since I broke the exclusive story of a secret police probe when I worked @theheraldsun
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There will now be a tense wait for Cardinal Pell in the Vatican in Rome as he waits to discover if he will be charged or not. #pell #vicpol
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BREAKING: Child sex abuse detectives from Sano Task Force have sent dossier back to Office of Public Prosecutions for second review. #pell

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@luciemorrismarr It sure is Lucie . 👍
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@luciemorrismarr @CARoyalComm Great work ! 😀👏
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This next 3 weeks of @CAroyalcomm will focus on child sexual abuse over 7 decades and what church leaders are doing to protect children.
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The hearings @CARoyalComm have now been adjourned until 10am tomorrow (Tuesday)
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Dr Whelan @CARoyalComm “Also, I’m not sure many clergy would go to their brother priests and say “Are you OK?”
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Dr Whelan @CARoyalComm “Never stop learning; that is not part of our clerical mindset. Sadly.”
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Dr Ranson: “How do we get clergy to read and broaden their horizons through reading?”
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Dr Whelan @CARoyalComm: “Every ten years you [clergy] must take a sabbatical, take time out.”
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Dr Ranson: “We would go a long way if they [bishops] started sharing what is taking place instead of operating in an isolated silo.”
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Dr Ranson @CAroyalcomm: “Bishops themselves don’t necessarily talk to one another. Their shared responsibility is fairly limited.”
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Dr Whelan: “The last thing in the world I’d want to be is a bishop….”
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Dr Whelan: “The best gift we can give to those who have been hurt is to become a better culture, a more relational culture.”
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Dr Whelan: “The checks and balances aren’t there [on bishops]”
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Dr Whelan: “But I wonder how many of the bishops have supervision.”
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Dr Whelan: “I know the bishops and a number are fine men and will talk like we are talking.”
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Dr Whelan:“You live around them really [bad bishops]it’s a test of endurance. I’m thinking of um…yes.I don’t wish to take that any further.”
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Furness @CAroyalcomm: “What do you do when you get a bad bishop?”
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Dr Ranson @CARoyalComm; “The Commission needs to be a catalyst of a continuing enquiry of the church itself.”
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Dr Ranson @CAroyalcomm: “The church is multi-faceted and it is not going to change…simply because of the commmission.”
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Dr Ranson @CAroyalcomm: “The church must engage in a conversation such as to learn from the Commission. Not to would be just disastrous.”
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Dr Whelan @CARoyalComm: “The world has every right to challenge us. And I welcome the role of the Royal Commission.”
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Dr Whelan @CARoyalComm : “You can’t come in with a magic bullet. We are not BHP, thank God.”
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Dr Whelan: “We need to see much more leadership…. Pope Francis is trying to do that but he’s getting push back from within.”
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Justice McClellen @CARoyalComm: “Does it require the @vatican_va_en to change the way priests are managed?”
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Dr Whelan: “The confluence of factors [which leads to abuse] didn’t happen with me but it happened to others…tragically for the victims.”
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Dr Whelan @CARoyalComm [on abuse] “Its not just one thing. Not one cause – there are many.”
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Justice McClellan @CARoyalComm; “It does not explain why they [clergy] take advantage of opportunity.”
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Dr Whelan @CAroyalcomm: “We could also ave more women involved in decision making and be more involved within the Catholic church.”
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Dr Whelan @CAroyalcomm “One thing we could do is have more transparency in the appointment of Bishops.”
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Justice McClellan @CARoyalComm: “There is room for everyone to learn from each other isn’t there?”
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Dr Whelan: “I think we should get rid of seminaries. They are like boarding schools and I don’t think they are healthy.” @CARoyalComm
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Justice McClellen asks Ranson: “What is the church doing about those in the 1990s who had conflicts are are still in priesthood?”
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BREAKING: Follow freelance investigative journalist @luciemorrismarr for her live tweeting of @CARoyalComm Crowdfunding details to follow.
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Dr Ranson: The literature now does seek to talk these things through [celibacy] much more openly and transparently.
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Dr Michael Whelan @CAroyalcommission “Celibacy is a rare gift. It can be lived out very well.”
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Dr Whelan @CAroyalcommission “Mandatory celibacy is a huge issue for the Catholic Church and we have to deal with it.”
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Justice McClellan @CAroyalcommission: “We ourselves have had evidence in Melbourne many religious people don’t obey celibacy all the time.”
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Dr Ranson @CAroyalcommission “Celibacy is a journey. And a journey which takes a good many years to mature.”
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Dr Ranson: “There are many forms of intimacy…to enter into another’s pain is intimacy” @CAroyalcommission
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CA Royal Commission ‏@CARoyalComm Feb 5
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Read opening address by Gail Furness SC, to final public hearing into Catholic Church authorities in Australia here http://bit.ly/2khsCHp
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Final hearing into the Catholic Church has resumed with a panel consisting of priests Dr David Ranson & Dr Michael Whelan
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Joanne McCarthy ‏@joanne2mccarthy Feb 5
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St. John of god order, which ran a Morisset facility, had the highest proportion of alleged offenders, at a staggering 40 per cent.
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Lucie Morris-Marr Retweeted Dynawilly
Absolutely, many feel too scared and ashasmed to come forward while tragically so many others have already ended their lives.Lucie Morris-Marr added,
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@luciemorrismarr @CARoyalComm And that’s only the victims brave enough to come forward. I imagine they are a small percentage of victims.
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First morning of next stage of @CARoyalComm and already a horrific statistic. #childabuse #catholicchurchLucie Morris-Marr added,
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Between January 1980 and February 2015 more than 4440 people alleged incidents of child sexual abuse to Catholic Church authorities.
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Royal Commission’s final public hearing into Catholic Church authorities in Australia has begun
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An essay by our @BylineFest poet laureate @salenagodden Black and White, Skin
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“They’re not behaving,” POTUS said, and the pool was escorted out of the Oval at 1:20.

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UK Judge tells man who stabbed partner to buy her new clothes and flowers. Jail too, but still. Yarn by @adamp2906
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John Sargeant ‏@JPSargeant78 Feb 3
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It looks like my Salad Days are behind me …

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